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Post by heelyes on Jun 5, 2007 22:28:37 GMT -5
To say we need to pass more is putting a team down?
Really, i would like to know.
Are we only allowed to talk about sunshine and jelly beans on here? The coaches and team do a great job against tradional teams (that is not continuously putting them down). they tend to do poorly against the pass oriented teams (that is fact). If we passed more we would be more prepared for the passing teams we play and would be in a better position to strike fast as they do when we get into a shoot out (that is a fact). We have had some of the best defenses i have ever seen recently at richmond (fact). Those defenses can not stop the passing teams when they get rolling and our offense can score quick enough to keep up (fact). We have a tone of skill players that never see the field at richmond because our offense features two players, a QB and a TB. If we used a more open attack more players could see the field in the skill positions.
If i am a bad person for believing this then so be it. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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Post by bluegrassfrm on Jun 9, 2007 13:54:17 GMT -5
coach hog be lucky to finish 2 in the conference
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Post by Kount Klepto on Jun 9, 2007 14:23:55 GMT -5
Anyone would be lucky to finish second in our conference. It's a tough one.
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Post by bluegrassfrm on Jun 9, 2007 14:40:52 GMT -5
c. hog got to get the boys in better shape and keep them in shape through the whole season and needs whole lot more discipline and a play caller the talents there
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Post by GivinThaBlues on Jun 10, 2007 8:27:44 GMT -5
Coach Hoggard is a great coach. If you don't want him, I am sure there are several other schools that would love to have him.
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Post by bluegrassfrm on Jun 10, 2007 9:01:46 GMT -5
well we are gonna get to see just how great . i cant wait ready for some football
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Post by heelyes on Jun 10, 2007 18:36:24 GMT -5
i hope he is "Great".
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Post by williamtell on Jun 11, 2007 19:51:59 GMT -5
I hope he's not
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Post by ickythump on Jun 11, 2007 20:50:54 GMT -5
The passing game wasn't "horrible" last season. Even though scrambling and running might be a strong point for Wiley, any QB needs more time than was provided to him last year and shouldn't be on the run from the snap. The offensive line needed to pass protect lots better. It really was BAD. Our running game wasn't all that great last year either which put even more pressure on the QB and passing game. I believe with better pass protection and some talented receivers (although their young) coming up along with a year under Wiley's belt and you could see a better passing attack. BUT and thats a large BUT we have to see a lot better performance from the offensive line and we have to see if Coach Hoggard is willing to use the pass as its been overheard that he as the OC and playcaller was a bit stubborn in opening up and calling the pass plays last season (maybe he knew the oline wasn't able to pass protect all that well?)
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Post by heelyes on Jun 14, 2007 19:18:00 GMT -5
I am having trouble understanding that. Are you saying that he was wanting to open up the passing attack but was not allowed to do so or are you saying that he was unwilling to open up the passing attack?
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Post by 1twister on Jun 15, 2007 14:56:37 GMT -5
The passing game wasn't "horrible" last season. Even though scrambling and running might be a strong point for Wiley, any QB needs more time than was provided to him last year and shouldn't be on the run from the snap. The offensive line needed to pass protect lots better. It really was BAD. Our running game wasn't all that great last year either which put even more pressure on the QB and passing game. I believe with better pass protection and some talented receivers (although their young) coming up along with a year under Wiley's belt and you could see a better passing attack. BUT and thats a large BUT we have to see a lot better performance from the offensive line and we have to see if Coach Hoggard is willing to use the pass as its been overheard that he as the OC and playcaller was a bit stubborn in opening up and calling the pass plays last season (maybe he knew the oline wasn't able to pass protect all that well?) 1st realize that having the QB on the run is the way they coach the position. I asked about it years ago and was told that teaching pass blocking was much harder and the team believes thay can be more successful with the QB on the move. As far as play calls went, Richmond threw the ball 1/3 of the time last year. The problem seems to be the talent/ability of the players to run this system. Wiley should be a better QB this year and hopefully mature enough to read his progressions. Defense keyed on our running game last year because we were unsuccessful at throwing the ball, not because we didn't call pass plays. FWIW...if you knew your team wasn't going to complete many passes, how many times would you call a pass play?
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Post by ickythump on Jun 15, 2007 17:10:11 GMT -5
I mean that it was said that maybe the rest of the staff thought we should have opened up to more of a passing attack last season but Coach Hoggard (as the OC) deferred. The passing game wasn't "horrible" last season. Even though scrambling and running might be a strong point for Wiley, any QB needs more time than was provided to him last year and shouldn't be on the run from the snap. The offensive line needed to pass protect lots better. It really was BAD. Our running game wasn't all that great last year either which put even more pressure on the QB and passing game. I believe with better pass protection and some talented receivers (although their young) coming up along with a year under Wiley's belt and you could see a better passing attack. BUT and thats a large BUT we have to see a lot better performance from the offensive line and we have to see if Coach Hoggard is willing to use the pass as its been overheard that he as the OC and playcaller was a bit stubborn in opening up and calling the pass plays last season (maybe he knew the oline wasn't able to pass protect all that well?) 1st realize that having the QB on the run is the way they coach the position. I asked about it years ago and was told that teaching pass blocking was much harder and the team believes thay can be more successful with the QB on the move. As far as play calls went, Richmond threw the ball 1/3 of the time last year. The problem seems to be the talent/ability of the players to run this system. Wiley should be a better QB this year and hopefully mature enough to read his progressions. Defense keyed on our running game last year because we were unsuccessful at throwing the ball, not because we didn't call pass plays. FWIW...if you knew your team wasn't going to complete many passes, how many times would you call a pass play? The majority of the time though 1twister the QB was not running cause of the play calling or at least it certainly didnt end up that way. Wiley was running for his life! I really question changing a whole offense or not passing more because the coaches aren't comfortable coaching pass protection. That may be a key to our lack of passing right there.
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Post by 1twister on Jun 19, 2007 11:26:50 GMT -5
The majority of the time though 1twister the QB was not running cause of the play calling or at least it certainly didnt end up that way. Wiley was running for his life! I really question changing a whole offense or not passing more because the coaches aren't comfortable coaching pass protection. That may be a key to our lack of passing right there.
True but remember even the NFL says it takes 2-3 years to develop a good offensive line that can work properly together. How much harder is it to do it with HS Kids in 3 years? I am a firm believer that you have to be able to run in order to be able to pass, and you must be able to pass in order to run. Last year, while it seemed we had neither (compared to past years) we still went undefeated in regular season against reasonably good competition. I look forward to seeing what Coach Hog will do with his "reins" removed. Who knows, he may surprise us all!
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Post by heelyes on Aug 15, 2007 10:07:20 GMT -5
if what you say about hoggard not wanting to open up the offense is true then i am worried about the future. However i am not to sure about this because alot of the reprots coming out of practice is that we are running alot from the spread.
does anyone really now what the offense will look like this year?
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Post by robesoncoraider on Aug 15, 2007 10:47:25 GMT -5
What if.......
We start passing for 250yds a game, Qb goes 18 for 25 and at least 2 passing TD's and loss 3 games a year and no Championship because the running game is lack and the defense still cant defend very well balanced teams that have equal passing games but play against well balance offensive teams around the year?
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