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Post by Kount Klepto on Aug 27, 2008 21:55:50 GMT -5
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Post by hudson058 on Aug 27, 2008 22:08:14 GMT -5
Sadly, I must say no. What one person gets away with seems to spread to others on the team. It will not only give other players a bad rep, but it set a bad example for the others.
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Post by SC Raider on Aug 27, 2008 22:32:45 GMT -5
Football aside, is he even going to be able to attend school there anymore?
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Post by powercenter on Aug 29, 2008 22:04:49 GMT -5
Lets not Judge to quick. Until you get the complete story. I have been around Jeremy for about 8 years. He has been raised by very good parents. If this did happen let's pray for him and not put him down. This is not the action of a Jeremy Harden I know! But people can and do crazy thinks. Just think of some of the crazy think you have done growing up. His parents have to be hurting over this.
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Post by ctrev on Aug 30, 2008 8:50:16 GMT -5
Mistakes of youth. Hopefully, he will recover from this.
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Post by trex on Aug 30, 2008 18:24:21 GMT -5
Yeah right, mistakes of youth. Jeremy is a bully who has never been held accountable for his actions. Ask around a little and find out what he did while at Richmond and Hamlet Jr. High.
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Post by trex on Aug 30, 2008 18:38:28 GMT -5
Of course, that's par for the course at Richmond County schools where athletes walk around like gods and are hardly ever held to the same standards of behavior as the rest of us humble mortals.
I wish someone would do a study to find out if athletes, especially football, basketball and baseball players, at the Jr high school and highschool levels get special treatment when involved with discipline referals. Hehe! No, just kidding. We all know the answer to that question. The integrity of our schools concerning discipline and athletes is ridiculous. There is none.
Go ahead, Kount. Research how athletes are disciplined at school concerned to the average student And survey the students and teachers to gather their thoughts about whether or not athletes, especially star atletes get preferential treatment. Also, go back and interview Jeremy's classmates and teachers, where they remain anonymous of course, and find out if he really is a nice guy.
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Post by Kount Klepto on Aug 30, 2008 23:44:29 GMT -5
I get what your are saying, but this is just one of those discussions that's always going to have people arguing both sides of it. As a former Hamlet Junior High and Richmond Senior High student myself, I can say that I noticed some preferential treatment toward athletes. However, I can also say that for about every athlete I saw receive favoritism from the faculty, I saw an intellectual or brown-noser receive similar treatment at times. Actually, while I was sitting here typing this post, one teacher at RSHS came to mind that was probably a little tougher on athletes than on others.
As for your research and survey request, I might actually try something along those lines.
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Post by trex on Aug 31, 2008 14:26:08 GMT -5
Kount,
I agree; athletes are not the only students who get special treatment at school. Of course there are the suckups, the preppies, the cheerleaders and the children of important citizens in the community. Very often the students who get the most special treatment are the very worst behaving kids in school. They must have loud obnoxious parents who are quick to call the principal or someone at the central office or the school board. Principals and school board members notably lack backbone. Take, for example the big fight on the school bus last week (you know the one on Washington St.?) Well one of the students is a criminal, who has been in probably hundreds of rules infractions at school. Guess what? By the end of the week he was riding the bus to and from school again. Yep, the administration are a bunch of limp pansies. No doubt.
But, just because there are others who get special treatment at school, doesn't change the fact that athletes do. Nice try at getting me off topic. The special treatment that athletes get is glaring. I'll bet that teachers feel impotent when they have a star athelete in their class. The teachers know they wil not be supported when the athlete gets out of line.
And the biggest problem, in my opinion, is when the coaches actually get involved in the diciplining of athletes who break school rules. For example, if an athlete disrspects a teacher or is repeatedly late for class, the teacher calls the coach and the coach makes the kid run wind sprints after practice or something similar. This looks good and it makes the coaches seem to be tough on their players and support the disciplining of their athletes. But this is crap! It's special treatment. A beter way to discipline athletes, and one with integrity, would be to treat them exactly as the other students are treated; follow the school handbook when disciplining them. The coaches must stay out of it. Unless of course, the coaches and the dministration actually have balls, and they cut an athlete, any athlete, including the star of the team, when they disrespect a teacher or repeatedly violate school rules.
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Post by ctrev on Aug 31, 2008 17:20:25 GMT -5
Sports should be the least of their worries if they behave poorly in school. ISS, OSS, and legal actions should be what catches their attention before having to miss out on sports. If those kinds of things aren't being thrown at them, then some actions need to be taken. However, it sounds to me like you've had your own toes stepped on one too many times and you are blowing things out of proportion.
BTW trex, name calling isn't much better behavior.
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Post by Gooden on Aug 31, 2008 17:36:53 GMT -5
Back to the topic. Jeremy should not be allowed to play if he is guilty of these actions. He should be allowed to play if it is decided that he is not. I'm sure that's how it's giong to play out anyway.
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Post by aj2008 on Sept 1, 2008 5:36:03 GMT -5
If the school allows them to bully students and teachers and they constantly get away with it then they think they are untouchable. then they hit the real world and get busted for drugs, violence, or theft. it's happened so much that youd think something would be done by now. i blame the schools and their parents as much as i blame them. if you dont know something is wrong why not do it?
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Post by jph2007 on Sept 1, 2008 19:02:30 GMT -5
Kount, And the biggest problem, in my opinion, is when the coaches actually get involved in the diciplining of athletes who break school rules. For example, if an athlete disrspects a teacher or is repeatedly late for class, the teacher calls the coach and the coach makes the kid run wind sprints after practice or something similar. This looks good and it makes the coaches seem to be tough on their players and support the disciplining of their athletes. But this is crap! It's special treatment. would you rather the coaches do nothing. i think this reflects highly on the coahces that they would punish them when the school wont.
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Post by trex on Sept 1, 2008 21:43:43 GMT -5
No, I think you misunderstand. Coaches should discipline and punish their players when the players violate the team's riules. When an athlete violates school rules, he/she must be punished just like any other student by the administration, according to the school handbook. If a principal thinks that the football coach will punish athletes who violate school rules, then the principal will think to himself: Such and such athlete has been tardy to Mrs. McDonalld's class 5 times in a row, and backtalked the teacher. I'll call his coach and let him handle it. The coach is tough on his players. Then the gutless principal will be proud of himself and he will have saved the athlete from missing Friday night's game. You see, thee is a little unspoken agreement between the coaches and the principals concerning athletes. This is special treatment. And it's unethical. the crapy thing about this situation is that the athletes know they are treated differently, as dos everybody else in the school, and they take advantage of it.
All students must be treated the same concerning discipline. We cannot have different rules for athletes, or anybody else. The fact that there are different standards and rules makes our administration, and the coaches, look corrupt and gutless.
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Post by dingleberry on Sept 1, 2008 21:47:05 GMT -5
Athletes bring in $$$. This kind of thing is no suprise to me.
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